“Forcefully” Rejecting Distorted Images of God

New Apologetics Tim, could we use part of our Twitter dialogue in a forthcoming article for NewApologetics.com? We are considering naming the article “That’s Why We Fight.” The article will be about the ways in which atheists are right and how religious people need to urgently pay attention. Our thesis is that atheists are rejecting a distorted image of God that is evil and totally unworthy of our worship or even our consideration. They are right to reject such a “god” definitively and forcefully, and they are right to reach out to others try to wake them up.

Every dialogue with any atheist we’ve encountered has confirmed that they are not rejecting God, but are standing in opposition to some kind of *evil.* In every case, we reject all the “gods” that you and other non-believers do. It always turns out that the perfectly just God we believe in is one that atheists have not yet heard about.

Here is the part we’d like to quote:

NewApologetics: Yes, we agree that all of the things you’ve noted are evil and should be rejected. This is one of the reasons why we think you have a point. You are right to reject these things as you do.

Tim Kesser: Please please please talk some sense into those evangelists than. Tried, it doesn’t work

NewApologetics: People are often afraid to see the truth that other people have because seeing it seems to threaten the piece [of the truth] that we have.

Tim Kesser: Peace doesn’t mean the bigotry and lies most preachers spew. Everyone is equal. That’s why we fight.

NewApologetics: Exactly. It doesn’t have to be as it is. People are being ignored… literally not seen as real because religion comes first.

Tim Kesser: Yupp, we will get along just fine. When anyone can accept anyone for who they are. That’s the progress I want.

November 5, 2012 at 11:35am · Like · 3

Tim Kesser Go right ahead.

November 5, 2012 at 1:40pm · Like

Stephanie Âû Soressi An “agnostic atheist?” That’s like being a Muslim Christian, isn’t it?

November 10, 2012 at 12:44pm · Like · 1

Tim Kesser Hardly, most Atheists fall under the title Agnostic Atheist.

November 10, 2012 at 12:47pm · Like

Aging Hippie I’m a gnostic atheist. I think that it’s impossible to know for certain if any deities or supernatural beings exist, but it is possible to know, at least with a fair amount of certainty, if a specified deity exists, based on the consistency and logic of its description. Yours cannot possibly exist.

November 10, 2012 at 6:44pm · Like · 1

Tim Kesser Than it falls into a matter of faith. Belief without evidence. Pointless.

November 10, 2012 at 7:51pm · Like

Tim Kesser Gnostic is holding strong beliefs one way or another both Theists and Atheists fall into either the Gnostic or Agnostic categories.

November 10, 2012 at 7:58pm · Like

Tim Kesser ^ This right here is the kind of Christian that irritates us. Go away, please.

November 10, 2012 at 10:14pm · Like · 4

New Apologetics Tim Kesser Tim, do you have any questions that you would want us to try to answer? We wouldn’t be seeking a debate so much as to attempt an answer to your questions from a perspective of rationality alone. Anything on the problem of evil, the atonement/original sin, or proof of God’s existence is fair game. Twitter was very limiting, and this venue is less so.

November 15, 2012 at 8:21pm · Like · 3

Carmelita Olaes amen

November 22, 2012 at 6:44pm · Like

Bill Mayo Agnostics (atheists/others) are cool. They seem to “seek after that which is lost” in earnest whereas rigid dogma sometimes/often distracts the contemporary Christian seeker? Just a thought.

November 22, 2012 at 11:08pm · Like · 2

Tim Kesser Bill, Rigid Dogmatic Belief is a problem in and of itself. With it it seems to limit human curiosity wouldn’t you say? Their are irrevocable moral differences that many of us have with the Catholic Church. Quite a few of us will seek truth no matter where it leads us. Modern Religion just seems to be lacking heavily in that regard.

November 23, 2012 at 12:40am · Like · 1

Giovanna De La Paz I look at this a little differently. I see that through the bible and many great people who came after, questioning, searching, studying, and debating, these people sorted out so many questions over the ages. As a result, our dogma is a guide to how we should live. Look, nothing is new whether you’re a contemporary or traditionalist; though some thought may be slightly tweaked, the end is the same.

November 24, 2012 at 1:00pm · Like

Tim Kesser Those slight tweaks in dogma is the difference between Bible Literalists and those who believe it to be metaphorical. Led to many nice wars and murders over those slight differences in dogma.

November 24, 2012 at 1:16pm · Like · 3

New Apologetics Tim Kesser You wrote: Their are irrevocable moral differences that many of us have with the Catholic Church
We reply: Ask us about them in a new post?

October 10, 2013 at 12:35pm · Like